Post by Reggie on Nov 7, 2011 12:35:43 GMT -5
Follow-up Question to last week’s question-
Re: Question about Matthew 16:27, 28 - Transfiguration and Second Coming
On the Matt 16:27
Mine uses the words "for the Son of Man is going to come in his Fathers glory with his angels and then he will reward EACH PERSON according to what he has done."
I used the judgment word to cut down on writing the whole thing down. In my mind, that means a judgment of sorts. And he also says each person. He sounds like He is talking about his second coming. It cannot be that it happened yet, so how can it be that one or more of the disciples have not tasted death?
Follow-up Answer to last week’s answer-
Re: Question about Matthew 16:27, 28 - Transfiguration and Second Coming
Again, I will reiterate some of the things I previously mentioned:
Verse 27:
Judgment and recompense or reward is not the same thing. Just as discernment and judgment is not the same thing.
Here is an example: We are told by Scripture to discern another person's actions but we are also told by Scripture not to judge another person’s actions. Scripture NEVER contradicts itself therefore, we have to look and examine the meaning in a deeper way to understand the difference. We can discern someone's actions without judging him or her.
Scripture often talks about judgment and judgments, as there are more than one; this that Jesus speaks of here is not a judgment.
The word "judge" never appears in the definition.
Here is the definition from the Greek so you can read it for yourself:
591. ajpodivdwmi apoádidoµmi, ap-od-eed´-o-mee; from 575 and 1325; to give away, i.e. up, over, back, etc. (in various applications):— deliver (again), give (again), (re-) pay (-ment be made), perform, recompense, render, requite, restore, reward, sell, yield.
Jesus in verse 27 is referencing His Second Coming in my belief as well. If you go back to verse 21 in Chapter 16 and read through to verse 13 in Chapter 17, you will see that Jesus touches on a variety of issues but does not cover them exhaustively. When reading Scripture it must always be examined in context and against other Scripture. Jesus touches on His crucifixion, persecution, the need and cost of serving Him, His Second Coming and His transfiguration. You must look at each individually as well as a whole.
In verse 28, I believe this is a reference to the transfiguration, which happened six days later [see Matthew 17:1-13]. When Jesus mentions that "there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom" He was letting them know that all this stuff is going to happen yes, but some of you will get a chance to see how it is going to turn out in the end because I will show you My Victory, Me in My Glorious Kingdom. Then Jesus went on to showed Peter, James, and his brother John what He would look like after His death, resurrection, ascension to heaven, and return to earth at the final judgment also known as the Second Coming.
Re: Question about Matthew 16:27, 28 - Transfiguration and Second Coming
On the Matt 16:27
Mine uses the words "for the Son of Man is going to come in his Fathers glory with his angels and then he will reward EACH PERSON according to what he has done."
I used the judgment word to cut down on writing the whole thing down. In my mind, that means a judgment of sorts. And he also says each person. He sounds like He is talking about his second coming. It cannot be that it happened yet, so how can it be that one or more of the disciples have not tasted death?
Follow-up Answer to last week’s answer-
Re: Question about Matthew 16:27, 28 - Transfiguration and Second Coming
Again, I will reiterate some of the things I previously mentioned:
Verse 27:
Judgment and recompense or reward is not the same thing. Just as discernment and judgment is not the same thing.
Here is an example: We are told by Scripture to discern another person's actions but we are also told by Scripture not to judge another person’s actions. Scripture NEVER contradicts itself therefore, we have to look and examine the meaning in a deeper way to understand the difference. We can discern someone's actions without judging him or her.
Scripture often talks about judgment and judgments, as there are more than one; this that Jesus speaks of here is not a judgment.
The word "judge" never appears in the definition.
Here is the definition from the Greek so you can read it for yourself:
591. ajpodivdwmi apoádidoµmi, ap-od-eed´-o-mee; from 575 and 1325; to give away, i.e. up, over, back, etc. (in various applications):— deliver (again), give (again), (re-) pay (-ment be made), perform, recompense, render, requite, restore, reward, sell, yield.
Jesus in verse 27 is referencing His Second Coming in my belief as well. If you go back to verse 21 in Chapter 16 and read through to verse 13 in Chapter 17, you will see that Jesus touches on a variety of issues but does not cover them exhaustively. When reading Scripture it must always be examined in context and against other Scripture. Jesus touches on His crucifixion, persecution, the need and cost of serving Him, His Second Coming and His transfiguration. You must look at each individually as well as a whole.
In verse 28, I believe this is a reference to the transfiguration, which happened six days later [see Matthew 17:1-13]. When Jesus mentions that "there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom" He was letting them know that all this stuff is going to happen yes, but some of you will get a chance to see how it is going to turn out in the end because I will show you My Victory, Me in My Glorious Kingdom. Then Jesus went on to showed Peter, James, and his brother John what He would look like after His death, resurrection, ascension to heaven, and return to earth at the final judgment also known as the Second Coming.