Luke 6:16

[jodiburgess]

I have noticed in different translations that this Judas is named as the son of James and in others the brother of James. I checked the Strong's and there is no clarification. There is no Greek word in the original. Does this "of James" mean he was in the lineage of James or that he was possibly a disciple of James and not in his lineage? I would appreciate your thoughts on this
verse. Thankyou, jodi

[Reggie]

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I have noticed in different translations that this Judas is named as the son of James and in others the brother of James. I checked the Strong's and there is no clarification. There is no Greek word in the original. Does this "of James" mean he was in the lineage of James or that he was possibly a disciple of James and not in his lineage? I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

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I am going to give you way more than what you ask for in my answer, so here goes.

“of James” I believe to be a reference to family. I see no reason at all to believe it is a reference to this Judas being a disciple of James’. Furthermore, I believe the reference to mean a kinship with the proceeding James, verse 15, James the son of Alphaeus, not necessarily the earlier James, verse 14, referred to on the list.

Therefore, all and all, we have two James’ and two Judas’.

Here Jesus is naming his Apostles. Thus far, they have been His disciples now He gives them the title Apostles. The question therein lies --- who are they? Moreover, are the two Judas’ connected?
Luke 6:13-15 NKJV
13And when it was day, He called His disciples to Himself; and from them He chose twelve whom He also named apostles: 14Simon, whom He also named Peter, and Andrew his brother; James and John; Philip and Bartholomew; 15Matthew and Thomas; James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called the Zealot; 16Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot who also became a traitor.

Apostle in the Greek means the following --
652. ajpovstolo" apoástoáloás, ap-os´-tol-os; from 649; a delegate; spec. an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ [“apostle”] (with miraculous powers):— apostle, messenger, he that is sent.

The original twelve and the meaning of their names --

Simon, whom He also named Peter--
4613. Sivmwn Simoµn, see´-mone; of Heb. or. [8095]; Simon (i.e. Shimon), the name of nine Isr.:— Simon. comp. 4826.#
4074. Pevtro" Peátroás, pet´-ros; appar. a primary word; a (piece of) rock (larger than 3037); as a name, Petrus, an apostle:— Peter, rock. comp. 2786.

Andrew his brother [meaning Peter’s brother]
406. ÆAndreva" Andreáas, an-dreh´-as; from 435; manly; Andreas, an Isr.:— Andrew.

James
2385. ÆIavkwbo" Iakoµboás, ee-ak´-o-bos; the same as 2384 Græcized; Jacobus, the name of three Isr.:— James.

John
2491. ÆIwavnnh" Ioµanneµs, ee-o-an´-nace; of Heb. or. [3110]; Joannes (i.e. Jochanan), the name of four Isr.:— John.

Philip
5376. Fivlippo" Philippoás, fil´-ip-pos; from 5384 and 2462; fond of horses; Philippus, the name of four Isr.:— Philip.

Bartholomew
918. Barqolomai`o" Barthoáloámaioás , bar-thol-om-ah´-yos; of Chald. or. [1247 and 8526]; son of Tolmai; Bar-tholomæus, a Chr. apostle:— Bartholomeus.

Matthew
3156. Matqai`o" Matthaioás, mat-thah´-yos; or
Maqqai`o" Maththaioás, math-thah´-yos; a short. form of 3161; Matthæus (i.e. Matthitjah), an Isr. and a Chr.:— Matthew.

Thomas
2381. Qwma`" Thoµmas, tho-mas´; of Chald. or. [comp. 8380]; the twin; Thomas, a Chr.:— Thomas.

James the son of Alphaeus
2385. ÆIavkwbo" Iakoµboás, ee-ak´-o-bos; the same as 2384 Græcized; Jacobus, the name of three Isr.:— James.

Simon called the Zealot
4613. Sivmwn Simoµn, see´-mone; of Heb. or. [8095]; Simon (i.e. Shimon), the name of nine Isr.:— Simon. comp. 4826.
2208. Zhlwthv" Zeµloµteµs, dzay-lo-tace´; the same as 2208; a Zealot, i.e. (spec.) partisan for Jewish political independence:— Zelotes.

Judas the son of James
2455. ÆIoudav" Ioáudas, ee-oo-das´; of Heb. or. [3063]; Judas (i.e. Jehudah), the name of ten Isr.; also of the posterity of one of them and its region:— Juda (-h, -s); Jude

Judas Iscariot who also became a traitor
2455. ÆIoudav" Ioáudas, ee-oo-das´; of Heb. or. [3063]; Judas (i.e. Jehudah), the name of ten Isr.; also of the posterity of one of them and its region:— Juda (-h, -s); Jude
2469. ÆIskariwvth" Iskarioµteµs, is-kar-ee-o´-tace; of Heb. or. [prob. 377 and 7149]; inhabitant of Kerioth; Iscariotes (i.e. Keriothite), an epithet of Judas the traitor:— Iscariot.

The word posterity appears in the definition of the name Judas. A name which both the betrayer Judas, and the faithful apostle, Judas possessed.
The word means -
pos·ter·i·ty [po stérrətee]
n (formal)
1. people in future: all future generations
2. all descendants: all of somebody’s descendants

I find this incredibly interesting since these two Judas’ would represent in a manner of speaking all of mankind. The faithful Judas would represent all those who would later follow and love Jesus the Christ. The betrayer Judas would represent all those who would turn against Jesus and all He has to offer. Both men would lead, and do lead, a generation [group] of people. Toward being faithful to Jesus or toward knowing Jesus and choosing to turn away.

We can clearly see from the following verse that Jesus’ had an Apostle whom name was Judas, which was not Judas the one who betrayed Him.
John 14:22KJV - 22Judas 2455 saith 3004 5719 unto him, 846 not 3756 Iscariot,

Now about Judas, the brother of James, Jesus Apostle -
Judas called also LEBBEUS and THADDEUS, Authorized Version “Judas the brother of James,” one of the twelve apostles. Tradition connects him with the foundation of the church at Edessa.

I see nothing in scripture to indicate that the two Judas’ are related by family or in anyway beyond both being Apostles.